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the senate has put off dealing with government spending cuts for another two months and they need to address the debt ceiling and long-term budget plans. >> it's the debate we'll have next and it's a debate republicans are ready for. >> reporter: and the next debate is in the house. we'll see if they pass the senate deal when they get back to work in less than two hours. live in washington, kyla campbell, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> it is 7:13. some san francisco workers can expect slightly bigger paychecks starting today. that's because the minimum wage just went up in the city. the minimum wage is now $10.5 in san francisco. the state minimum wage in california is $8 an hour. >>> 7:13. pg&e customers, you'll see changes on your bill this month. starting today, electric bills go up about 2%. but gas rates, they are going down, almost 6%. however, the smaller gas prices, they won't last long. next month, pg&e will raise gas rates about 2% to help pay for pipeline safety upgrading. now, this was mandated by sit regulators after the 2010 pipeline explosion in san bruno. >>> well, a new ca
the senate has put off dealing with government spending cuts for another two months and they need to address the debt ceiling and long-term budget plans. >> it's the debate we'll have next and it's a debate republicans are ready for. >> reporter: and the next debate is in the house. we'll see if they pass the senate deal when they get back to work in less than two hours. live in washington, kyla campbell, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> it is 7:13. some san francisco workers can...
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president obama asking the house to pass it without delay. nancy cordes is on capitol hill this morning. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. technically we did go over the fiscal cliff at midnight this morning, but that is likely to be temporary if the house votes in favor of that bill later today. the senate as you mentioned, voted overwhelmingly around 2:00 in the morning by a vote of 89-8, almost all democrats and republicans voting yes on a deal that would make permanent the bush era tax cuts for people earning up to $400,000 a year and couples earning up to $450,000 a year. this was a deal that was worked out by vice president biden and senate leaders. the house speaker hasn't said that the house will definitely vote in favor of it today, but democrats at least are saying they expect almost all of their members to vote yes. terrell. >> nancy cordes on capitol hill. thank you so much. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton spent new year's eve in the hospital being treated for a blood clot in her skull. margaret brenn
president obama asking the house to pass it without delay. nancy cordes is on capitol hill this morning. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. technically we did go over the fiscal cliff at midnight this morning, but that is likely to be temporary if the house votes in favor of that bill later today. the senate as you mentioned, voted overwhelmingly around 2:00 in the morning by a vote of 89-8, almost all democrats and republicans voting yes on a deal that would make...
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it's just disgusting. >> reporter: president obama wanted to dole with taxes and spending cuts at the same time. >> but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner has not yet publicly endorsed the deal. now, the house reconvenes at midday but lawmakers say, frank, they plan to study this bill hard before they take a vote. they say the senate has had months to get a bill passed and they are not going to rush to get anything done. >> there is word, tara, that some republican lawmakers are upset about something the president said. could that effect support of the bill? >> reporter: it might. president obama chastised in his speech congress for taking too long to get the deal done. but he also threw something out at republicans saying if they think that spending cuts is the only thing that's going to reduce the deficit, they have another thing coming and that basically references the $16.5 trillion in debt which is the next issue on the table. a lot of republicans were offended and it could antagonize enough o
it's just disgusting. >> reporter: president obama wanted to dole with taxes and spending cuts at the same time. >> but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner has not yet publicly endorsed the deal. now, the house reconvenes at midday but lawmakers say, frank, they plan to study this bill hard before they take a vote. they say the senate has had months to get a bill passed and they are not...
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. >>> looking beyond the senate deal, president obama is warning republicans that if they want future spending cuts, they're going to have to provide more tax revenue as well. >> if republicans think that i will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone -- and you hear that sometimes coming from them, that sort of after today we're just going to try to shove only spending cuts down -- well, shove spending cuts at us. if they think that's going to be the formula for how we solve this thing, then they've got another think coming. >> that midday news conference didn't go over well with a lot of republicans, and they said that the president's sometimes mocking tone, as they felt it was, could hurt the fiscal cliff deal in the house. >> as i sort out my impressions of the president's remarks as to whether to be angry or to saddened. we have the president of the united states go over and have a cheerleading ridiculing of republicans exercise. >> let's bring in democratic strategist and former edwards communications director chris ka fiance and republican strategist and
. >>> looking beyond the senate deal, president obama is warning republicans that if they want future spending cuts, they're going to have to provide more tax revenue as well. >> if republicans think that i will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone -- and you hear that sometimes coming from them, that sort of after today we're just going to try to shove only spending cuts down -- well, shove spending cuts at us. if they think that's going to be the...
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has president obama showed when his back support against the wall, he will cave? >> the president has been very strong in these negotiations. you have to keep in mind the republicans really did not want to tax more wealthy people in our society one dime. not a dime, and he's stuck with that. i consider myself a liberal and proud of it. we did not want an increase in t the age with regard to medicaid and cpi with regard to social security benefits. and the president was strong there, and i think he'll continue to be strong, and, you know, i notice a different president since he won this election, i think he is working very closely with congress, and, again, i -- often i'm -- i'm critical for congress for not coming to the table and compromising. critical for trends for saying my way or the highway. but at some point, we've got to take care of a lot of people like folks in my district, who through this deal will at least be able to get unemployment benefits, and a number of others that mean something to middle class families. >> are we setting up ourselves for fight
has president obama showed when his back support against the wall, he will cave? >> the president has been very strong in these negotiations. you have to keep in mind the republicans really did not want to tax more wealthy people in our society one dime. not a dime, and he's stuck with that. i consider myself a liberal and proud of it. we did not want an increase in t the age with regard to medicaid and cpi with regard to social security benefits. and the president was strong there, and i...
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but the other big obama prize is no spending cuts. i mean, a few republicans are going to give in on this position you have held for decades, what are you going to get in return for? remember that great "wall street journal" article where john boehner says, i'm putting all this revenue on the table. what am i going to get? barak obama says, you get nothing. i get it for free. that's what happened. >> brian: that's what happened so far. it's amazing because if the president actually wanted to balance the budget, he would be doing cuts. it doesn't seem like he's playing for the same goal as the average american, politics aside. >> we have one side that wants higher taxes and one side that wants lower spending. they're banging into each other. >> brian: thanks for coming in. >> thank you. >> steve: happy new year. >> brian: straight ahead, president obama wanted congress to get raises. but most americans think they're doing a very bad job. will lawmakers see more money in their paychecks? there is an update. >> steve: kind of a diplomay
but the other big obama prize is no spending cuts. i mean, a few republicans are going to give in on this position you have held for decades, what are you going to get in return for? remember that great "wall street journal" article where john boehner says, i'm putting all this revenue on the table. what am i going to get? barak obama says, you get nothing. i get it for free. that's what happened. >> brian: that's what happened so far. it's amazing because if the president...
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president obama released a statement shortly after the senate voted. reading in part on your screen, "tonight's agreement ensures that going forward, we'll continue to reduce the deficit through a combination of new spending cuts and new revenues from the wealthiest americans. i will continue to fight every day on behalf of the middle class and all those fighting to get into the middle class to forge an economy that grows from the middle out, not the top down." >>> the treasury is taking steps to help avert a different financial crisis. it has stopped issuing new debt of two government retirement funds. the news will keep the government from reaching its $16.4 trillion borrowing limit, at least for the time being. this is not going to impact current retirees. treasury secretary timothy geithner announced last week that his department will adopt measures to save about $200 billion and that is to keep the government from reaching its limit for two months. >>> want to get the out-the-door forecast. tom? >> 2013, the forecast for today, a few scattered flu
president obama released a statement shortly after the senate voted. reading in part on your screen, "tonight's agreement ensures that going forward, we'll continue to reduce the deficit through a combination of new spending cuts and new revenues from the wealthiest americans. i will continue to fight every day on behalf of the middle class and all those fighting to get into the middle class to forge an economy that grows from the middle out, not the top down." >>> the...
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president obama outlined that yesterday. these tax hikes are not enough for him. that he's going to go after more tax hikes. it's going to be the same discussion. the fact is we're just ceding more and more ground and more and more jobs, by the way, that young people need. so that's one of the things where i think house republicans get it, where at least i mean the majority of our caucus gets it where we're going to stand up against this plan because it's bad for young people, bad for our future, it's bad for the rest of america too. there was a great article in "the washington times" yesterday about why this plan and why plans like this are going to absolutely hurt and bankrupt our generation. i think there's at least a core group of republicans who are actually going to defend that and try to get a real solution done. something that addresses entitlement reform, that doesn't just tax people. this is a tax bill. this just raises taxes. and that's all it's doing. and the fact of the matter is grover norquist, this just shows how little power grover has. grover is
president obama outlined that yesterday. these tax hikes are not enough for him. that he's going to go after more tax hikes. it's going to be the same discussion. the fact is we're just ceding more and more ground and more and more jobs, by the way, that young people need. so that's one of the things where i think house republicans get it, where at least i mean the majority of our caucus gets it where we're going to stand up against this plan because it's bad for young people, bad for our...
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another spending battle is also brewing on capitol hill. the government is close to reaching its debt limit. the treasury is taking steps to delay reaching the $16.4 trillion borrowing limit. yesterday it stopped issuing new debt for two government retirement funds. that won't impact current retirees. treasury secretary timothy geithner announced last week that his department will adopt measures to save about $200 billion. that's going to keep the government from reaching its limit for about two months. >>> we've also got much more information coming ahead in the next few hours on this deal right here on news4 today. again on news 4 at 5:00 and at 11:00. you can also read about it by going to nbcwashington.com. >>> today is the day some couples in maryland thought would never come. same-sex marriage became legal at the stroke of midnight and it's exactly how some couples decided to bring in the new year. sabrina and natasha of frederick exchanged vows the minute same-sex marriage became legal at midnight. maryland voters approved same-sex m
another spending battle is also brewing on capitol hill. the government is close to reaching its debt limit. the treasury is taking steps to delay reaching the $16.4 trillion borrowing limit. yesterday it stopped issuing new debt for two government retirement funds. that won't impact current retirees. treasury secretary timothy geithner announced last week that his department will adopt measures to save about $200 billion. that's going to keep the government from reaching its limit for about...
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president obama released a statement shortly after the senate vote. it reads in part "tonight's agreement ensures that going forward we will continue to reduce the deficit through a combination of new spending cuts and new revenues from the wealthiest americans. i will continue to fight every day on behalf of the middle class and those fighting to get into the middle class to forge an economy that grows from the middle out, not from the top down." >>> that vote may not come right
president obama released a statement shortly after the senate vote. it reads in part "tonight's agreement ensures that going forward we will continue to reduce the deficit through a combination of new spending cuts and new revenues from the wealthiest americans. i will continue to fight every day on behalf of the middle class and those fighting to get into the middle class to forge an economy that grows from the middle out, not from the top down." >>> that vote may not come...
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the big cliff still lies in front of us. >> reporter: president obama had scolded congress for waiting so long. >> one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there's even one second left before you have to do what you're supposed to do, they will use that last second. >> reporter: the bush-era tax cuts remain in place for individuals earning as much as $400,000 a year, far above the 250,000 level on which president obama campaigned. but those making more will see higher income taxes, capital gains, plus a new health care reform surtax. rob wood says you'll notice in your paycheck one popular tax cut will be history. >> the average person, say, earning $50,000 a year is going to pay about $1,000 more in payroll taxes in 2013. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff agreement also increases taxes on estates worth more than $5 million and extends unemployment benefits for one year and keeps the child tax credit for workers who don't earn enough to pay income taxes. the alternative minimum tax got a pat for inin addition. that shields 33 million taxpayers. even with the budge
the big cliff still lies in front of us. >> reporter: president obama had scolded congress for waiting so long. >> one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there's even one second left before you have to do what you're supposed to do, they will use that last second. >> reporter: the bush-era tax cuts remain in place for individuals earning as much as $400,000 a year, far above the 250,000 level on which president obama campaigned. but those making...
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president obama said he would have preferred a grand bargain that solved all of washington's revenue and spending problems. >> with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. [ laughter ] >> it may be we can do it in stages. >> reporter: negotiations have been going on all day. lawmakers and aides moving back and forth between meeting rooms here on capitol hill on what is normally a quiet new year's eve. the major sticking upon the now is spending. the president suggested lawmakers make action on deficit reduction in the next few months and that more tax revenue could be involved in those discussions. but republicans are furious at that possibility. >> i'm willing to support revenues to deal with this problem. the overall problem. but what i will not grow to is using revenues to replace spending reductions. >> reporter: even if the senate approves the deal by midnight the house still has to pass the measure before the president can sign it into law. the house left earlier this evening, but it doesn't matter in terms of the "fiscal cliff" agreement b
president obama said he would have preferred a grand bargain that solved all of washington's revenue and spending problems. >> with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. [ laughter ] >> it may be we can do it in stages. >> reporter: negotiations have been going on all day. lawmakers and aides moving back and forth between meeting rooms here on capitol hill on what is normally a quiet new year's eve. the major sticking upon the now is...
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obama's comments angered republicans. so i think they're back in the negotiating room, republicans pushing harder on the spending cuts side. that's what we've seen through the the day. >> ali, based on my years of covering washington, the longer there's no final vote in the senate and house, the more likely this whole thing could collapse. >> yeah. gives everybody a chance to think it through. this is kind of the contradiction in this whole thing. when you think back to the debt ceiling deal, you think back to the government shutdown. these are all eleventh hour deals. we've become accustomed to doing things before the deadline. there's some sense of urgency. what you've heard throughout the day is we don't like that the white house, that they're moving toward a higher threshold on taxes. the longer it doesn't get done, the more people say let's take a harder line yet. i like you wolf, we're going to sit here until it happens. i'm not sure it's going to happen. there are still some remarkable philosophical differences. a
obama's comments angered republicans. so i think they're back in the negotiating room, republicans pushing harder on the spending cuts side. that's what we've seen through the the day. >> ali, based on my years of covering washington, the longer there's no final vote in the senate and house, the more likely this whole thing could collapse. >> yeah. gives everybody a chance to think it through. this is kind of the contradiction in this whole thing. when you think back to the debt...
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if that's part of it and obama looking for at least some infrastructure, some stimulus spending. are any of those components in this deal? >> i don't think the spending part is addressed. i could be wrong and i believe per child tax credit is, in fact, addressed and extended in some way, shape or form and heard the president say some of the incentives for green energy in place in the stimulus. as well. i'm not sure if i heard you mention the alternative minimum tax for the wealthy and dipped in to the middle class and every year congress has to put it off. what's in this bill is a permanent revocation, a perm inconsistent fix, if you will, of the alternative men mum tax. that's astonishing. almost a trillion dollars cut from the baseline over ten years and appears that would be in the bill but put out the big caution here because nothing is voted on yet. there's no -- the ink is not dry. the signatures not on the document. if there's a deal, it is still not quite there yet. that big fight as we have been describing over those spending cuts, automatic spending cuts over ten years.
if that's part of it and obama looking for at least some infrastructure, some stimulus spending. are any of those components in this deal? >> i don't think the spending part is addressed. i could be wrong and i believe per child tax credit is, in fact, addressed and extended in some way, shape or form and heard the president say some of the incentives for green energy in place in the stimulus. as well. i'm not sure if i heard you mention the alternative minimum tax for the wealthy and...
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can they resolve the disagreement offer spending cuts? democrats are resisting. they want a longer perhaps one-year delay and president obama was trying to rally those disappointed democrats with remarks that he just made by citing gains that he had won in terms of energy and education tax breaks he supported in the past and vowing to seek more revenue later on when we get to the discussion of entitlement cuts or what republicans believe is safer ground. saw some tweets saying he is trying to gum up the works. but there is the way the to and fro negotiation of president obama making sure his own troops are in line if he makes a deal. >> absolutely. talking to and fro, when president obama was speaking and saying a fiscal cliff deal was in sight, we saw the dow spike back above the 13,000 market pch pairing those gains a little bit as we speak. still below the 13k mark right now. we will watch this as we continue to get headlines. let's talk to aimian who is also falling a minute by minute changes. what is the latest in your camp? >> the deal john just outlined wo
can they resolve the disagreement offer spending cuts? democrats are resisting. they want a longer perhaps one-year delay and president obama was trying to rally those disappointed democrats with remarks that he just made by citing gains that he had won in terms of energy and education tax breaks he supported in the past and vowing to seek more revenue later on when we get to the discussion of entitlement cuts or what republicans believe is safer ground. saw some tweets saying he is trying to...
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under president bush and president obama. and i think republicans ask for less than they should have, we're going to have to ask for more in the way of spending cuts because once we do this very small, large increase on the wealthy, but small amount of revenue, we have to come back again. and i think the middle class has to understand that you can only get so much from the rich when they're already going to be paying over 55% on their ordinary income come next year, at least in my state of california. there is going to be a limit how much you can do. ultimately all taxes end up being paid disproportionately for the middle class. >> are you going to vote for this? >> i haven't seen the bill yet. >> would you vote for tax increases or tax cuts up to 450,000? >> i said aultimately i'll finda way to support something to bring to the american people. i think this bill will have too few cuts and will depend on a small amount of people that candidly don't represent enough money to bring a real fix to our trillion dollar deficit. >>
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sikh that was president obama sharing his thoughts on the debate over cutting federal spending. while there were reports of significant progress a short time ago. there is concern from republicans that they are giving the president the tax hikes he requested without getting spending breaks in return at a time when the federal deficits are running a trillion a year. the president talks about a balanced solution. we'll update as we hear more from the nation's capital. arthel: while the president blames congress for the problems in washington. a georgetown law professor says our problems start our constitution and announces we need a new form of government. i'm going to start with dee dee on this. i'm a big fan of hdtv. do we need to make over the constitution? >> let's get rid of the one thing holding us all together. washington is broken, obviously we have problems. is this guy crazy? i'll call him louie. dose want a monarchy. i think he should take a sabbatical to cuba or saudi arabia where there is no constitution. the constitution protects this guy. >> the professor argued why
sikh that was president obama sharing his thoughts on the debate over cutting federal spending. while there were reports of significant progress a short time ago. there is concern from republicans that they are giving the president the tax hikes he requested without getting spending breaks in return at a time when the federal deficits are running a trillion a year. the president talks about a balanced solution. we'll update as we hear more from the nation's capital. arthel: while the president...
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caller: i do not understand why president obama was doing at that rally. he needs to get in his car and go on down to the capital and try to figure out this mess. he himself and the democrats and republicans all equally created it. he is a democrat and he needs to take the leadership role and he has not done that. he does most to be the cheerleader and the champion. i am tired of the democrats'. host: ok, we will go to fort lauderdale, fla.. caller: i am very disappointed that the president has failed to be, has chosen to create an environment of blame, which is not good for anyone. we did not really have this class warfare before. there is all this talk, but nothing about the real issue which is the debt. i am more worried about the future generations, bankrupting the future generations. and by not dealing with entitlements, what are we going to do? and he always talks about how entitlements -- the cuts will not really be entitlement cuts for 10 years. there's a lot of scare factor here. there's a lot of misinformation caller:. -- there's a lot of misinfo
caller: i do not understand why president obama was doing at that rally. he needs to get in his car and go on down to the capital and try to figure out this mess. he himself and the democrats and republicans all equally created it. he is a democrat and he needs to take the leadership role and he has not done that. he does most to be the cheerleader and the champion. i am tired of the democrats'. host: ok, we will go to fort lauderdale, fla.. caller: i am very disappointed that the president has...
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and so this is not going to be simply a matter of me spending political capital. >> president obama on "meet the press" over the weekend. in the wake of the newtown, connecticut school shootings. the president insisted he wants new gun control legislation passed in the next year. he put vice president biden in charge of that task force to make recommendations to him. democratic congressman john yarmouth of kentucky joins us now and he sits on the budget oversight and government reform and ethics committees. good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> what is your thought on what the president said on "meet the press?" >> i think he is absolutely right. what sets this apart, however, is that we do have presidential leadership on this issue. that is something that hasn't been there during past attempts to do something to curb gun violence. i am thrilled about that. i agree with him totally. i've said many times the public has to keep the drum beat going because unless there is a perceived cost to many of the politicians up here not much is likely to happen. we have to make sure the publi
and so this is not going to be simply a matter of me spending political capital. >> president obama on "meet the press" over the weekend. in the wake of the newtown, connecticut school shootings. the president insisted he wants new gun control legislation passed in the next year. he put vice president biden in charge of that task force to make recommendations to him. democratic congressman john yarmouth of kentucky joins us now and he sits on the budget oversight and government...
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that level of increased spending has continued with president obama every year since 09. stuart: hold on a second. can we please roll the sound bite of president obama and a trillion dollars worth of cuts. go. >> if you look at my track record over the last two years, i cut spending by over a trillion dollars in 2011. i campaigned on the promise of being willing to reduce the deficit in a serious way in a balanced approach of spending cuts and tax increases on the wealthy while keeping middle class taxes low. stuart: i think that was from met the press. -- meet the press. david: yes, it was. stuart: the president specifically said i have cut the deficit by 1 trillion dollars. david: he said i cut spending by 1 trillion dollars. stuart: by 1 trillion dollars. is that true? david: not at all. i'm looking in my hand. these are the figures from the department of treasury. spending 09, 3 trillion 500 billion. 2010, 3 trillion 500 billion. 2011, 3 trillion 600 billion. 2012, 3 trillion 538 billion. he has not cut a trillion dollars. where are those cuts? we just heard kirsten s
that level of increased spending has continued with president obama every year since 09. stuart: hold on a second. can we please roll the sound bite of president obama and a trillion dollars worth of cuts. go. >> if you look at my track record over the last two years, i cut spending by over a trillion dollars in 2011. i campaigned on the promise of being willing to reduce the deficit in a serious way in a balanced approach of spending cuts and tax increases on the wealthy while keeping...
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heather: coming up president obama facing another key test as he approaches the start of his second term. the ongoing battle now turning to america's ports, as a strike deadline fast approaches. doug mcelway live from washington. doug, the complaints of longshoreman whose strike was temporarily averted last week is kind of a symbol of what is threatening unions all across the nation, right? >> it really is heather, the longshoreman have been threatened by automation. it takes one longshoreman to do a job in the early 1960s it took three men to do. as automation has increased the longshoreman's union demanded their job security be plea served. the shipping industry worked out a deal where longshoreman would be paid a fee based on the weight of every container this a ship carries. but the industry finds it prohibitive lee expensive. >> antiquated work rules we've seen in it automotive industry, in the steel industry where efficient will see and new productive machines can come into play and people get displaced by that. it's been a difficult thing but it's one of the things that in order t
heather: coming up president obama facing another key test as he approaches the start of his second term. the ongoing battle now turning to america's ports, as a strike deadline fast approaches. doug mcelway live from washington. doug, the complaints of longshoreman whose strike was temporarily averted last week is kind of a symbol of what is threatening unions all across the nation, right? >> it really is heather, the longshoreman have been threatened by automation. it takes one...
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addiction of his administration he has to spending. he is the "spender-in-chief." >> reporter: president obama says he is willing to do that. >> i offered over a trillion dollars in additional spending cuts so that we would have $2 of spending cuts for every $1 of increased revenue. >> the senate stands in recess. >> reporter: the senate reconvenes at 11 a.m. so as americans celebrate the beginning of 2013, they may wake up wishing it were 2012 when they had more money in their pockets. i'm andrew spencer reporting. >>> just to clarify, the mid into the deadline is 9:00 our time. if the deadline comes and goes, there could still be some wiggle room if the president and lawmakers appear to be working toward an agreement. the tax hikes and spending cuts could be held at bay for a few weeks, then could be repealed retroactively once the deal is reached. you can keep tabs on the fiscal talks anytime by logging on to our website, cbssf.com. >>> congressional leaders did show yesterday they are able to compromise. top republicans and democra
addiction of his administration he has to spending. he is the "spender-in-chief." >> reporter: president obama says he is willing to do that. >> i offered over a trillion dollars in additional spending cuts so that we would have $2 of spending cuts for every $1 of increased revenue. >> the senate stands in recess. >> reporter: the senate reconvenes at 11 a.m. so as americans celebrate the beginning of 2013, they may wake up wishing it were 2012 when they had...
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entitlements that obama thinks -- he is spending $5 million of taxpayer money for a vacation. everybody is going to have to pay more taxes. why? what are the entitlements going to the politicians? they get a six-figure salary and everything is paid for. you try to get into the white house or one of the senator's place. they are heavily guarded with rifles. it is the democrats back door. you have to know what is in the bill. host: thank you for the call. this is from "the washington times." "leaders find agreement on farm bill." host: and from nbc news, moron hillary clinton, -- more on hillary clinton who remains hospitalized this morning after it blood clot had formed. the clot stems from a concussion she sustained several weeks ago. she is in new york president obama -- new york presbyterian hospital. her doctors will continue to assess her condition and will determine if any further action is required. she has not been seen in public in three weeks. was supposed to come back to office this week. next is ron from cincinnati, good morning. caller: i wish mrs. clinton well. th
entitlements that obama thinks -- he is spending $5 million of taxpayer money for a vacation. everybody is going to have to pay more taxes. why? what are the entitlements going to the politicians? they get a six-figure salary and everything is paid for. you try to get into the white house or one of the senator's place. they are heavily guarded with rifles. it is the democrats back door. you have to know what is in the bill. host: thank you for the call. this is from "the washington...
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that's not because he takes it and spends it. if we just leave it in -- >> trillion going to save on obama care in the first ten years and then the ten trillion in the next ten years and by adding 30 million new people? >> right. >> who aren't going to be paying -- >> the way the republican budget saved money frankly was they slashed medicaid. in other words, according to the congressional budget office, by the year 2020, they cut medicaid by one -- >> no. >> that is exactly what you're -- >> no it didn't. >> corker says when the president said he was cutting a trillion on "meet the press," corker says that we don't have a single -- that's not one aspect of that trillion dollars has been actually identified. is that -- >> that's absolutely true. and again the only thing -- >> -- more savings -- >> we're not going to fight and interest savings from money we're not going to borrow. that's smoke and mirrors. >> what if you're the public sitting at home right now. they're mad at both of you guys right now. they're mad at the presiden
that's not because he takes it and spends it. if we just leave it in -- >> trillion going to save on obama care in the first ten years and then the ten trillion in the next ten years and by adding 30 million new people? >> right. >> who aren't going to be paying -- >> the way the republican budget saved money frankly was they slashed medicaid. in other words, according to the congressional budget office, by the year 2020, they cut medicaid by one -- >> no. >>...
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. $1.2 trillion in federal spending cuts begin to kick in. the payroll tax holiday enacted under president obama will expire. the alternative minimum tax kicks in and several tax deductions will also expire. nbc's danielle leigh is on capitol hill with the latest on the negotiation. danielle, what's the latest? >> reporter: good morning. there's been progress and at 11:00 a.m. this morning the senate is going to get back to work. when they do they will not have a lot of time to come up with a deal to avoid those spending cuts and tax increase. both sides are still divided but just before calling it quits yesterday democratic leader harry reid said he hoped to have an announcement in the morning when the senate gets back network. where are they divided? they are divided at what salary taxes should increase but there was progress on taxes for the wealthiest of americans and avoiding the inheritance increases and they are grateful that republicans have given up on demands for cuts to social security at least for now. now this progress has not co
. $1.2 trillion in federal spending cuts begin to kick in. the payroll tax holiday enacted under president obama will expire. the alternative minimum tax kicks in and several tax deductions will also expire. nbc's danielle leigh is on capitol hill with the latest on the negotiation. danielle, what's the latest? >> reporter: good morning. there's been progress and at 11:00 a.m. this morning the senate is going to get back to work. when they do they will not have a lot of time to come up...
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and spending cuts. so there is a lot to be resolved here in the next few hours. >> too bad we only found out about this, you know, yesterday or the day before. 517 days they've had to work out the details and now we're talking about them all. brianna, we'll be busy today and may be ringing in the new year together. brianna keilar in washington. >>> a ball dropping in washington, a ball dropping in times square it looks like we'll go off the fiscal cliff. here's what it means to you. your paycheck will shrink. the payroll tax holiday is likely going away, for someone making $50,000 a year, it means $80 out of your paycheck. taxes will rise for 90% of americans by about 2,000 a year for those making between $40,000 and $60,000. making six figures? taxes go up by $13,000 if congress doesn't act. and the hit that families will take. four tax credits in danger of disappeared. four family tax credits, including earned income tax credit, close to $6,000 families for families making $50,000. american opportunit
and spending cuts. so there is a lot to be resolved here in the next few hours. >> too bad we only found out about this, you know, yesterday or the day before. 517 days they've had to work out the details and now we're talking about them all. brianna, we'll be busy today and may be ringing in the new year together. brianna keilar in washington. >>> a ball dropping in washington, a ball dropping in times square it looks like we'll go off the fiscal cliff. here's what it means to...
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do you want the government to do nothing about spending? are you happy with obamacare? most would say no, but in the end the choice was between a president who said things aren't great, but i'm still going to try to make them better and a guy he painted as not having a plan and not identifying with the average wants and needs of middle class americans and in the end, people decided to stick with the devil they knew rather than the one they didn't. >> paul: so the election, the republican defeat was big, but it wasn't overwhelming in a sense of repudiation, kim, as far as a republican platform and their agenda? >> no, i think the reason, look, this country had the opportunity in this election to once again hand completely controlled government to democrats. everyone in the house was up for reelection and yet, they continued to give republicans, majority there. they liked divided government and i think you've got to look to the number of states that have elected very conservative governors who are doing the exact opposite of what barack obama is doing at the federal level
do you want the government to do nothing about spending? are you happy with obamacare? most would say no, but in the end the choice was between a president who said things aren't great, but i'm still going to try to make them better and a guy he painted as not having a plan and not identifying with the average wants and needs of middle class americans and in the end, people decided to stick with the devil they knew rather than the one they didn't. >> paul: so the election, the republican...
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those $700 billion, and all went to obama care. it was saved as part of a big spending program. here in washington people say cut while things grow. it is like having a freeze that is water and when it freezes, it expands. we have grown 100% in 12 years. the government is bigger and unless we do something now the government will continue to get bigger and the deficit will get bigger, even if we raise taxes on everyone there is still a huge deficit. if we do not take on spending, the fiscal cliff will be a downward slide to make us like greece, no longer a viable economic power. >> that was from the program " state of the union, close with this morning. a number of members of the house are point to try to make their way back for votes this evening at 6:30. the house taking up some 13 bills. here is how david hocking's of "congressional quarterly" termed this house session -- " >> nothing on the fiscal cliff, however. we will keep you posted on that. the senate gaveling out shortly for that caucus meeting in particular. taking a look at your twitter messages,-tag is fiscal cliff.
those $700 billion, and all went to obama care. it was saved as part of a big spending program. here in washington people say cut while things grow. it is like having a freeze that is water and when it freezes, it expands. we have grown 100% in 12 years. the government is bigger and unless we do something now the government will continue to get bigger and the deficit will get bigger, even if we raise taxes on everyone there is still a huge deficit. if we do not take on spending, the fiscal...
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if they can both come forward a little bit more, president obama more on spending reductions including entitlement reform, he did do some and mr. boehner, speaker boehner coming forward not just $1 million having a tax raise, those earning $400,000 to $500,000, you can get the grand bargain. it's not what we are talking today. get the fiscal cliff to where you change the scale to a bunny slope, where the skier can pick up speed, accelerate the economy up to 3%, only reducing the debt reduction down 200 billion. then with the surging economy, you get $3 trillion in february before the debt limit is broken, then the economy is so strong it can take the grand compromise and roar into the next nine years. that's the grand compromise. >> i heard you use that reference of the bunny slope. we are about to hit the bunny slope as opposed to the fiscal cliff. this is from an article in the washington post. if an agreement is reached, taxes would go up a bit for the wealthy. there would be no changes to entitlement programs, medicare, social security, no grand strategy to race cash through a tax
if they can both come forward a little bit more, president obama more on spending reductions including entitlement reform, he did do some and mr. boehner, speaker boehner coming forward not just $1 million having a tax raise, those earning $400,000 to $500,000, you can get the grand bargain. it's not what we are talking today. get the fiscal cliff to where you change the scale to a bunny slope, where the skier can pick up speed, accelerate the economy up to 3%, only reducing the debt reduction...
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spending. >> we can't ford a politically self-inflict wound to the economy. if they don't pan out, he is ready to plomyself -- propose his own tax bill. patience is wearing thin. >> for those of us investing in the stock market, it's disgusting to watch them jockey around with our money. >> reporter: missing in all the last-minute northbounds is talks about the $1.2 trillion mandatory spending cuts scheduled to go into affect tuesday. tara mergener for cbs news, washington. >>> three people are dead after a late-night apartment fire in san jose. the fire began after 11 last night on bridgeport court on the city's west side. the san jose fire department put out the blaze and then discovered the bodies of a man, woman, and child. >> they will upgrade the alarm and to have some personnel in place. we had multiple rescues in the middle of the night, no people are sleeping and we need to get our resources. >> three others, including the officer injured were hospitalized and the fire displaced 56 people from the building. investigators are still looking into the ca
spending. >> we can't ford a politically self-inflict wound to the economy. if they don't pan out, he is ready to plomyself -- propose his own tax bill. patience is wearing thin. >> for those of us investing in the stock market, it's disgusting to watch them jockey around with our money. >> reporter: missing in all the last-minute northbounds is talks about the $1.2 trillion mandatory spending cuts scheduled to go into affect tuesday. tara mergener for cbs news, washington....
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>> it depends if he turns into bill clinton or remains barack obama. clinton understood his legacy, was what was important and he would be remembered as somebody who was good on the economy, as a democrat. guess what? he wasn't a typical democrat. he was forced to change. a lot of it had to do with the fact that the congress changed. we have divided government. if the president wants the same old, same old, he will get t. the republicans won't cave. it's equal branchings of government. they control two-thirds and it takes three to tango, the senate, white hussein. >> eric: terrific debate. >> heather: who is leading in the tango, that's what we don't know. congressional leaders are trying to come up with that deal, with less than two days before massive tax hikes and spending cuts kick in and small businesses are already being affected. companies have no idea how much more they are going to owe uncle sam next year. that is affecting how they are doing business right now. we have those details from the new york city newsroom. >> reporter: many small, ow
>> it depends if he turns into bill clinton or remains barack obama. clinton understood his legacy, was what was important and he would be remembered as somebody who was good on the economy, as a democrat. guess what? he wasn't a typical democrat. he was forced to change. a lot of it had to do with the fact that the congress changed. we have divided government. if the president wants the same old, same old, he will get t. the republicans won't cave. it's equal branchings of government....
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>> there are still several outstanding suits challenging the law meaning obama care will still be a hot button issue into 2013. as 2012 winds down it resembles 2011 with congressional republicans finishing out the year locked in another showdown with the white house over taxes and spending. but the average family caught -- with the average family caught in the middle. in washington, craig boswell, fox news. >>> lots of strong winds today, a cold day as well. the winds will be gusting up to 35 or 40 miles an hour. definitely hang onto your hat. here's a live shot outside. we have a few clouds but tonight, well, we will see a little bit of a -- full forecast just ahead, a look at the skins forecast and that all important new year's eve forecast. we will be back after the break. eak. >>> off the wall is coming up next and only one thing to talk about in this town this week. >> it's all about the redskins and cow pokes sunday night. who is going to win? will you make an official prediction? >> i am guaranteeing i tell you who is going to win this game. >> locked and loaded after the break.
>> there are still several outstanding suits challenging the law meaning obama care will still be a hot button issue into 2013. as 2012 winds down it resembles 2011 with congressional republicans finishing out the year locked in another showdown with the white house over taxes and spending. but the average family caught -- with the average family caught in the middle. in washington, craig boswell, fox news. >>> lots of strong winds today, a cold day as well. the winds will be...
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the government cannot keep spending money. we need a vacation for michelle and obama. stop that. let's have them pay their own after a share. that applies to lobbyists and anybody traveling for private reasons. this stuff is being run by amateurs. i thank you so much for being able to talk to you. we have a class warfare. it is not right. everybody should go to church and say a prayer to god. host: dawn from california. -- don from california. a column from washington times -- he notes that the bottom line is this -- congressman darrell issa in "the washington times." will go to the democrat line, charles from texas. caller: first, i have a question. this morning when i was watching the news, did i understand that congress is getting a raise next year? host: we will have a story on that later. caller: i think they should lead by example. they need to take a pay cut if we are taking pay cuts. we need to stop foreign aid all the way around. host: will that be enough to solve the debt problem? caller: know, there needs to be tax increases and spending cuts, but i do not think it has
the government cannot keep spending money. we need a vacation for michelle and obama. stop that. let's have them pay their own after a share. that applies to lobbyists and anybody traveling for private reasons. this stuff is being run by amateurs. i thank you so much for being able to talk to you. we have a class warfare. it is not right. everybody should go to church and say a prayer to god. host: dawn from california. -- don from california. a column from washington times -- he notes that the...
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and i think that president obama struck it perform. he hasn't offered a whole lot and not we're only talking about tax increases, no talk about what will really matter, which is getting spending under control, entitlement programs, social security and medicare. nobody is talking about that and kicked the can down the road and only talking about taxes which will do nothing to decrease the deficit. >> juliet: thank you for joining us and waking up at the bright and early hour of 6:10 a.m. >> clayton: thanks, curtis. let's check with maria molina, another snowstorm in ohio and east and some places in southern new england got up to a foot of snow. >> dave: and drivers be warned, five people hurt in new hampshire after a 20-car pileup and some airports saw slays and a plane taken off in sheing slid off the runway, and stuck in a snow bank, 6 6 on board. no one was hurt. >> juliet: for more on the conditions as mr. clayton morris said, maria molina. i was saddened not to see a white new years, pre-new years. >> we didn't see it accumulate in
and i think that president obama struck it perform. he hasn't offered a whole lot and not we're only talking about tax increases, no talk about what will really matter, which is getting spending under control, entitlement programs, social security and medicare. nobody is talking about that and kicked the can down the road and only talking about taxes which will do nothing to decrease the deficit. >> juliet: thank you for joining us and waking up at the bright and early hour of 6:10 a.m....
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spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >> welcome tote program. >> thank you very much. >> we are out of time now. [laughter] >> now a word from our sponsors. i want to ask you about political fallout. a lot of people are saying -- let's blame the democrats or the republicans. right now, it seems the democrats are winning the messaging game here. but who will be to blame if we go over the cliff? >> correct me if i am wrong -- especially you -- but it seems like the conventional wisdom, when wh all is said and done, obama will come out looking nice. but right now, what he doesn't care about is a popularity boost in the polls. what ultimately the president cares about, like all presidents, is the legacy. what happens after all of this is said and done, four
spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >> welcome tote program. >> thank you very much. >> we are out of time now. [laughter] >> now a word from our sponsors. i want to ask you about political...
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to avoid tax hike and spending cuts from taking effect. lisa desjardins is live on capitol hill. what's going on right now? >> reporter: right now it's all behind closed doors, martin. what we just have learned in the last hour, in fact, what reporters have seen here, a surprise. house speaker john boehner was here at the capitol. we're still trying to sort out exactly why he was here, but he wasn't here for very long, it seems. he left in the last hour. also, we were able to see some of senator mcconnell's staffers. i was able to speak to one of them coming in and out of these kind of closed-door planning meetings. he said they've been here since 9:00 a.m. they plan to work all day and we may see his boss, senator mcconnell, later today. that shows us kind of where things stand. i wanted to break this down simply because there's so much that complicates the story. let's look really quickly at a graphic of the basics, what's happening right now. here's where we stand with the fiscal cliff. first of all, who's doing the negotiating? ice the
to avoid tax hike and spending cuts from taking effect. lisa desjardins is live on capitol hill. what's going on right now? >> reporter: right now it's all behind closed doors, martin. what we just have learned in the last hour, in fact, what reporters have seen here, a surprise. house speaker john boehner was here at the capitol. we're still trying to sort out exactly why he was here, but he wasn't here for very long, it seems. he left in the last hour. also, we were able to see some of...
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and the to sequester these mandatory spending cuts to defense, there's not enough time to deal with those. that is a concern to many republicans, actually many democrats as well. that could be a final hiccup here even as we get closer on the tax question. >> so how are we supposed to do is then, christina? if we couldn't get it done at $1 million. speaker boehner couldn't get that done. is it going to look like a bipartisan agreement of over in the senate that's going to go to the house, may pass with bipartisan support and then that just makes speaker boehner look even worse than he has the past week or so? >> getting a bipartisan deal, i mean that's really an interesting question if it ends up making somebody look worse. what's interesting to me about the calculus in all of this, this little bit of political kabuki theater. in some case that's actually what it is. polls are showing that the american people are actually following this debate very closely. it's one that has been warned about for a long time. the automatic sequestration cuts have basically been warned about. we've known ab
and the to sequester these mandatory spending cuts to defense, there's not enough time to deal with those. that is a concern to many republicans, actually many democrats as well. that could be a final hiccup here even as we get closer on the tax question. >> so how are we supposed to do is then, christina? if we couldn't get it done at $1 million. speaker boehner couldn't get that done. is it going to look like a bipartisan agreement of over in the senate that's going to go to the house,...
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tax hikes and deep spending cuts. and here we go again, more snow headed to the the northeast, where a major winter storm already dumped several inches on inland areas. snarling roads, canceling hundreds of holiday flights. two powerful systems expect today come up the east coast by today, from south carolina to new york already issues severe weather warnings. i'm heather childers, now back to bulls and bears and for your latest weather headlines, log on to foxnews.com. you're watching the most powerful name in news. >> canceled, that's what thousands of ticked off holiday travelers are seeing on airport monitors this week. and while the nasty weather is to be blamed, toby says we should blame government regulations. >> here is a fact when it's a $27,000 fine if you're on the tarmac for more than three he hours in a minute which i was about two and a half years ago before they did this, what happens is, they get fined $27 grand per passenger and now they're doing, what they call in the industry the economic kill and l
tax hikes and deep spending cuts. and here we go again, more snow headed to the the northeast, where a major winter storm already dumped several inches on inland areas. snarling roads, canceling hundreds of holiday flights. two powerful systems expect today come up the east coast by today, from south carolina to new york already issues severe weather warnings. i'm heather childers, now back to bulls and bears and for your latest weather headlines, log on to foxnews.com. you're watching the most...
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president obama met with senate and house leaders yesterday. all sides say they're getting closer to a deerl. the two sides are trying to avoid a tax hike on all americans as well as deep spending cuts. but the president also said that the american people are growing tired of what seems to be never ending gridlock and partisan bickeri bickering. >> the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. the economy is growing, but sustaining that trend is going to require elected officials to do their jobs. >> right now, the plan is to come to an agreement then send it over to the senate for a vote. the house would then take a vote, which could take place as late as january 2nd. the president will sit down for an exclusive one-on-one interview with "meet the press" moderator david gregory tomorrow. the two will discuss the fiscal cliff as well as other key issues facing the country. you can see it right here on nbc 4. the show starts at 10:30. >>> we are just one day away from
president obama met with senate and house leaders yesterday. all sides say they're getting closer to a deerl. the two sides are trying to avoid a tax hike on all americans as well as deep spending cuts. but the president also said that the american people are growing tired of what seems to be never ending gridlock and partisan bickeri bickering. >> the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. the economy is...
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republicans and democrats fail to reach a deal on how to reduce the national deficit tax hikes and spending cuts worth billions of dollars in mass we take effect on journey the first another round of talks is saturday barack obama is already considering an emergency bill for the workers and the army if agreement is not reached before the deadline. the six men involved in the gang rape of a student in india i mean charged with murder just hours after a victim died in a hospital if convicted all could face the death penalty in the case sparked protest in new delhi if you're for it is resorting to banning mass gatherings in parts of the city people still joining to express their anger and sorrow and demanding extreme measures to keep the streets safe. the newly elected prime minister has taken a tour of the fukushima nuclear plant which was devastated by a massive tsunami last year wearing a protective suit to be inspected the complex and admitted that dealing with a fall that is an unprecedented challenge the previous democrat led government plan to scrap the use of nuclear power but i've bee
republicans and democrats fail to reach a deal on how to reduce the national deficit tax hikes and spending cuts worth billions of dollars in mass we take effect on journey the first another round of talks is saturday barack obama is already considering an emergency bill for the workers and the army if agreement is not reached before the deadline. the six men involved in the gang rape of a student in india i mean charged with murder just hours after a victim died in a hospital if convicted all...
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so this is not just a president obama story. both when it comes to fundraising and to the strategic travel. president bush was spending so much time in ohio and florida and pennsylvania and there's alcs all sorts of coverage that this had to do the electoral college. and it's easier to say -- easy to say this is electorial related but i want to look at it systemically and those states that ended up being battleground states for a president's re-election campaign did tend to get more visits from the population alone would have predicted and the same is true for new hampshire and iowa. host: our first caller for brendan doherty comes from eric in seedertown, georgia, on our sign for democrats. caller: nothing was going on until the black man, president obama got to become president. mitt romney did not put any of his money into his campaign election. these are things -- these are rich millionaires and billionaires. they don't have to disclose how much money they are actually giving. so the electoral college was based on a certain
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with steep tax hikes and deep spending cuts looming, president obama used the power of his office to turn up the pressure on congress, making a quickly arranged appearance in the white house briefing room friday. >> the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. >> reporter: the president repeatedly tapping into the public's frustration to bolster his argument. >> the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound. ordinary folks, they too their jobs. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind-boggling to them and needs to stop. >> reporter: the stern words came on the heels of an hour-long meeting with congressional leaders. sources close to the talks say mr. obama gave lawmakers two options. either come up with a bill that can pass both houses or allow a vote on his plan which among other things would extend unemployment benefits and tax breaks for those making $250,000 or less while allowing rates to raise on wealthier americans. something many repub
with steep tax hikes and deep spending cuts looming, president obama used the power of his office to turn up the pressure on congress, making a quickly arranged appearance in the white house briefing room friday. >> the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. >> reporter: the president repeatedly tapping into the public's frustration to bolster his argument. >> the american people are not going to have any...
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cuts but it would not touch president obama does think this plan would pass both the house and senate if it got an up or down vote. he told the senate they had a day or two to make a deal on their own. if they're not making any progress he wants both chambers to bring this plan forward for up or down vote. speaker boehner apparently was noncommittal to that idea. it's important to point out that the debt ceiling is not a part of this plan c. that is still going to have to be dealt with separately later on. >> juliet: thank you, peter. >> dave: moderately optimistic. >> juliet: we are moderately optimistic about the weather. one-two punch comes as people are still digging out from past week's snow storm. >> clayton: preparation press still underway. stacking up on salt and sand. they have been presalting some of the roadways. >> dave: i hope so. maria my lien in for for rick this morning. good morning, maria. >> good morning. good to see you guys. good morning, everybody. we have another storm system first alert forecast to bring more snow to the northeast today. that's just after on t
cuts but it would not touch president obama does think this plan would pass both the house and senate if it got an up or down vote. he told the senate they had a day or two to make a deal on their own. if they're not making any progress he wants both chambers to bring this plan forward for up or down vote. speaker boehner apparently was noncommittal to that idea. it's important to point out that the debt ceiling is not a part of this plan c. that is still going to have to be dealt with...
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president obama is he close to the same number they are about $300 billion apart. they are 1 hers apart from this whole deal. the problem is they are not putting spending cuts on the table. what they're doing is putting proposed possible cuts but the stimulus spending they are putting on the table also offsets that tax increase that he wants. still looking at trillion-dollar deficit. that just goes to show spending cuts. right now we don't have them. talks about them and there is accounting fuzzy math going on but there is not any serious entitlement reform. we can't just wait and talk about that in january. needs to be included in any package before we go forward. >> you know, juan, the point she is making when we talk about spending cuts. basically a guy pulling the olives off a meat lover's pizza and saying he is on a diet. something so incidental and ignoring this huge huge problem this black hole that is spending. it's true. we are going nowhere. >> no, i disagree. you know what? >> you like picking the olives off. that's you and spending cuts. >> not only tha
president obama is he close to the same number they are about $300 billion apart. they are 1 hers apart from this whole deal. the problem is they are not putting spending cuts on the table. what they're doing is putting proposed possible cuts but the stimulus spending they are putting on the table also offsets that tax increase that he wants. still looking at trillion-dollar deficit. that just goes to show spending cuts. right now we don't have them. talks about them and there is accounting...